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Let’s talk about breasts, baby

After a judge ejected a breastfeeding woman from his courtroom, Ali Clarke asks: in what world can such an important part of human anatomy still be taboo?

Mar 16, 2023, updated Mar 16, 2023
A 'free the nipple' protest in Berlin. Photo: EPA/Filip Singer

A 'free the nipple' protest in Berlin. Photo: EPA/Filip Singer

Baps, Jiggly and Wiggly, Snuggle Pups, Sweater Stretchers, Cans, Cha-Chas, Bumps, Melons, Noogies, Puppies, Over the Shoulder Boulders, Fun Sacks, The Gals, Tatas.

You know what I’m referring to, right?

Or perhaps you prefer specific descriptors like Itty Bitty Titties, Knockers, Saddle Bags, Kahunas, Raisins, Jiggly and Wiggly, Juggernauts or Melons.

Maybe you’re more inclined towards personalities like Dolce and Gabbana, Danny DeVitos (DD), Minnie and Mickey or Mary-Kate and Ashley.

Whatever takes your fancy, there’s no doubt women’s breasts have been causing quite a stir this week.

It all seemed to start when a Victorian woman was asked to leave a courtroom because she was breastfeeding, but in all honesty, I think I filed it in the “surely we’re still not doing worried about seeing boobs” folder and moved on.

That was, until it came up as dinner conversation with my children, courtesy of a high school assignment, where my eldest daughter had to develop a timeline of how women’s bodies had been socially defined as being “ideal” or “beautiful”.

Cue discussions about the Renaissance, the Victorian era, Marilyn Monroe, androgyny and Kim Kardashian’s curves.

Heady stuff over some lamb chops and three veg.

But it was my 11-year-old boy’s questions about boobs that really got me tongue-tied.

He said, “Mum I just don’t get them,” lifting his shirt.

“I’ve got nipples like you but yours are fatter and wobblier (thanks buddy) but I can take my shirt off at the beach, but you can’t.

“So, is it just the fatty bit around the nipple that makes it wrong to see?”

You should have seen his face when I then grabbed my phone and showed him the mesh dresses and that single feather top that were worn to the various Oscar parties Monday night, which promptly blew that hypothesis out of the water.

Then I rocked his world, by telling him about how mummy used to breastfeed him and his sisters, in all manner of places as she tried to juggle everything from grocery shopping, to work, to catching up with friends and school pick-ups.

He was aghast.

“What?

“You used to pull your boobs out in public?!?”

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“Yes mate: if you were hungry and I couldn’t be home, then it was fine-dining wherever I could stand or sit.”

In fact, at one point with his little sister, I remember walking to the door whilst feeding to tell a local politician I wasn’t really that interested in her pre-election pitch, and about three weeks after our eldest was born, I had to walk down an aisle as a bridesmaid with a very lopsided decolletage courtesy of disparate times for feeding and vows.

Honestly? In the fog of early mothering, I couldn’t even tell you what people around me thought of it, because once the crying started, it was two hands, a muslin wrap and at least one breast on deck.

Cue my teenager citing the story I had ignored earlier this week as she indignantly asked why then, that Judge had kicked a woman out of his court for breastfeeding.

(Apparently it was a big topic of discussion that previous school lunchtime between her mates).

The fact he thought it would be a “distraction” certainly didn’t play well with her and given that women have fed babies in parliament, and the process is actually protected under the Federal Sexual Discrimination Act, she couldn’t come to terms with it.

That’s when I told them about women now being able to swim topless in Berlin’s public pools courtesy of successful discrimination complaint and their belief in “free-body culture”.

It’s fair to say: Minds. Blown.

By that stage though, we had finished our broccoli and it was time to expand our minds by watching tele on the couch, so further discussions about cultural differences are on hold for the moment.

So in the end, did any of it hit the mark with the kids?

I’m not sure.

What I do know is that when I tucked my boy in that night he quite earnestly informed me that he’s decided boobs seemed really great and were very important, but if it is possibly OK, could I not pull them out at school pick up.

On that, we could agree.

Ali Clarke presents the breakfast show on Mix 102.3. She is a regular columnist for InDaily.

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